[Catalist] Religions and the Theory of Biological Evolution

Mon Aug 14 20:21:36 AEST 2017

I notice that the letter to Simon Birmingham opposes the teaching of
Creation Science per se. The teaching of CS is not opposed by the Academy
of Science - their objection is to it being taught within science.

On 14 Aug 2017 6:06 PM, "Stephen Zander" <szander at ccgs.wa.edu.au> wrote:

> Greetings,
> I have already signed up. I direct everyone's' attention to the stated
> position of the Australian Academy of Science in 2005 on the teaching of
> Evolution and Intelligent Design (https://www.science.org.au/
> supporting-science/science-policy/position-statements) to which the
> Australian Science Teachers Association was a joint signatory. ASTA also
> has a position statement on the teaching of evolution and intelligent
> design.
>
> Kind regards
> Dr Stephen Zander
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On 14 Aug 2017, at 17:24, Roy Skinner <rsskinner at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> Yes I will sign. Anyone who believes that a whale is intelligently
> designed must be nuts. It is a mammal that walked on the Earth at one time
> but was so badly designed that its weight dictated that it had to move into
> the ocean for mobility.
>
> Why should this be an issue in Australia where we are relatively sane
> compared with USA here 40% of them believe that the Earth is only 4000
> years old?
>
> Roy
>
>
>
> *From:* Catalist [mailto:catalist-bounces at lists.stawa.net
> <catalist-bounces at lists.stawa.net>] *On Behalf Of *Kim Flintoff
> *Sent:* Monday, 14 August 2017 12:24 PM
> *To:* gpmcmahon1 <gpmcmahon1 at gmail.com>; Tim Keely <T.Keely at curtin.edu.au>;
> catalist at lists.stawa.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Catalist] Religions and the Theory of Biological Evolution
>
>
>
> Hey,
>
>
>
> I just signed the petition "Minister Simon Birmingham: STOP funding
> schools that teach Creationism." and wanted to see if you could help by
> adding your name.
>
>
>
> Our goal is to reach 2,500 signatures and we need more support. You can
> read more and sign the petition here:
>
>
>
> https://www.change.org/p/minister-simon-birmingham-
> stop-funding-schools-that-teach-creationism?recruiter=
> 10128070&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_
> campaign=share_email_responsive&utm_term=118866
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>
> Thanks!
>
> Kim
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> On 14/08/2017, 10:21 AM, "gpmcmahon1" <gpmcmahon1 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm with Mike. I would say "stop teaching Intelligent Design in science
> classes" for the same reasons I would say "stop teaching French, Roman
> History, non-Euclidean Geometry. .." All interesting, valuable subjects but
> they are not part of the science curriculum.
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> Sent from my Samsung GALAXY S5
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Tim Keely <T.Keely at curtin.edu.au>
> Date: 14/08/2017 10:00 AM (GMT+08:00)
> To: catalist at lists.stawa.net
> Subject: Re: [Catalist] Religions and the Theory of Biological Evolution
>
> LOL, Brendan, sorry
>
>
>
> *From:* Catalist [mailto:catalist-bounces at lists.stawa.net
> <catalist-bounces at lists.stawa.net>] *On Behalf Of *brendan o'brien
> *Sent:* Monday, 14 August 2017 9:53 AM
> *To:* catalist at lists.stawa.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Catalist] Religions and the Theory of Biological Evolution
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> "Why not teach them all?” asks Tom
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> …. because in the science classroom we teach the science of evolution that
> is backed by a strong preponderance of multiple lines of evidence.
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> Myths and other non-science ‘theories', past and present, can freely be
> taught in English, History and other parts of the curriculum
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> On 14 Aug 2017, at 11:30 am, Tim Keely <T.Keely at curtin.edu.au> wrote:
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> http://listverse.com/2013/03/08/10-alternatives-to-evolution/
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> why not teach them all?
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> Please people, please.
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>
> Tim Keely
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> *From:* Catalist [mailto:catalist-bounces at lists.stawa.net
> <catalist-bounces at lists.stawa.net>] *On Behalf Of *Michael Podgorny JP
> *Sent:* Monday, 14 August 2017 9:03 AM
> *To:* catalist at lists.stawa.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Catalist] Religions and the Theory of Biological Evolution
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> Dear Michael
>
>
>
> Thanks for the posting of this article.
>
>
>
> I believe that as an educator it is our responsibility to educate the
> students and deliver material to them allowing the students to make an
> informed decision.  This relates to theories past and present.
>
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>
> I am surprised that you would ask a teacher to stop teaching intelligent
> design and reduce the potential for the students to make informed decisions
> to become independent learners based on the information provided.
>
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>
> I also find it disconcerting that you needed to state "(a Catholic)".  It
> should not matter which religion you are to teach Science or scientific
> theories/laws/practices to students.
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> *Michael Podgorny* *JP*
> BA, BEd, MSc, LLB (Hons), Grad Dip Leg Prac
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> *From:* Catalist <catalist-bounces at lists.stawa.net> on behalf of Michael
> McGarry <mmcgarry44 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 14 August 2017 8:17:08 AM
> *To:* catalist at lists.stawa.net
> *Subject:* [Catalist] Religions and the Theory of Biological Evolution
>
>
>
> Greetings Science Colleagues,
>
> Some years ago as Science Head of Department in a WA State Government
> senior high school, I had to ask a science teacher (a Catholic) to stop
> teaching intelligent design to his Year 10 science students.
>
> URL 1: http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/id_checklist
>
> URL 2: https://www.aaas.org/news/aaas-board-resolution-
> intelligent-design-theory
>
> URL 3: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-
> creationist/
>
> URL 4:http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/05/the-
> whys-of-religion-vs-evolution/
>
> URL 5:http://sci.waikato.ac.nz/evolution/EvolutionReligion.shtml
>
> I have recently studied the Stanford Encyclopaedia Philosophy: Religion
> and Science. I was especially interested in the reasons for the historical
> decline of Science in Islamic countries. [*The Stanford Encyclopaedia
> Philosophy: Religion and Science being a dissertation on Philosophy is a
> difficult read!*]
>
> Section 2.2 “*Science and religion in Islam*” in the online publication “*The
> Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy: Religion and Science*” states that: “The
> defining characteristic of Islam is its belief in one God (Allah), who
> communicates through prophets, including Adam, Abraham, and Muhammad” and
> that; “Allah’s revelations to Muhammad are recorded in the Quran, the
> central religious text for Islam” and that; “Since the Quran explicitly
> mentions the special creation of Adam out of clay, most Muslims refuse to
> accept that humans evolved out of hominin ancestors. Nevertheless, Muslim
> scientists such as Guessoum (2009) and Rana Dajani (2015) have advocated
> acceptance of [biological] evolution.”
>
> Reference URL 6:https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/religion-science/
>
> Biological Evolution – An Islamic Perspective
>
> URL 7:http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/657/biological-
> evolution-an-islamic-perspective/
>
> NAS Online Evolution Resources
>
> URL 8:http://www.nas.edu/evolution/IntelligentDesign.html
>
> URL 9: http://www.nas.edu/evolution/FAQ.html
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Michael John McGarry
>
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