[Catalist] Buffers Chemistry Query

leon leon at quoll.com
Wed May 17 14:19:05 AEST 2017


Hi. In and of itself, you cant tell. Due to the lesser mass of OH- versus H2PO4- , its velocity at a given temp will be higher an hence all others equal you would expect oh to react. Add To this that oh may move through solution fasteR than it can diffuse via "proton hopping" where oh exchanges protons with water and you end up with oh moving close to the speed of the proton diffusion.
Against this, you have higher conc of h2po4- . I think both should be acceptable, as at this level we dont do rate constants, and without them you cant really answer.
And whatever the rate both reactions will occur to at least some extent. cheers leon
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-------- Original message --------From: Karen Johnson <kjohnson at sjgs.wa.edu.au> Date: 17/5/17  9:52 am  (GMT+08:00) To: catalist at lists.stawa.net Subject: [Catalist] Buffers Chemistry Query 


ATTENTION: Chemistry Teachers
 
I was wondering if someone could give a clear cut answer on buffers. I have spoken to a couple of experienced Chemistry teachers and they both have validated my concerns with this type of buffer
 question and informed me to post my concerns. I want to make sure that I am teaching buffers correctly with the concept of adding in hydroxide ions in case is ever comes up in the WACE exam.
 
Let’s say you have the following buffer below. Can someone explain to me what happens when hydroxide ions are added to this buffer? Does it react more with H2PO4– (aq)  or  
 H3O+ (aq) and therefore which equation forward or reverse is favoured more? From my understanding, I believe it would react with the H2PO4– (aq)  as there is a greater concentration of this acid in the
 buffer compared to H3O+ (aq). Although hydroxide ions can react with hydronium it does this to a lesser extent and has less effect.
 
H2PO4– (aq)   +   H2O (l)   ⇌   HPO42– (aq)   +   H3O+ (aq)
 
I have looked through the last 5 years worth of WACE papers and there is literally only this question (see attached 2012 WACE question) that discusses this type of question. Most buffer questions in the WACE
 exams are the more straight forward ones, in which they ask about how the effect of adding a small amount of acid to a buffer equation that has hydronium ions already. I know that the Essential Chemistry book is stating that the hydroxide ions react with the
 hydronium ions but take a look at the WACE exam and is begs to differ!! 
 
This question in the 2012 WACE exam does look at it in question (f). I presume that the first equation in (f) links to the first equation in (e). This shows that hydroxide ions react with the acid and not
 the hydronium ions. 
 
If anyone could give me a clear cut answer to this question so I can make sure I am teaching this correct, it would be greatly appreciated.

 
Looking forward to your responses.
 
Kind regards,
Karen 
 
 
 
 

       
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