[Catalist] Female Praying Mantis and her Ootheca

Graham McMahon gpmcmahon1 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 13 00:32:35 AEDT 2018


"Has anyone got a good recipe for feral camel? "
http://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/whole-stuffed-camel-67495

On 12 Feb 2018 9:21 PM, "Leon Harris" <leon at quoll.com> wrote:

>
> In answer to this point:
>
> I am pleased “Insectopia [URL: http://www.insectopia.com.au] is
> retreating from trading live invertebrates!” Should science teachers ask
> their science students to make collections of insects?
>
>
> I am uncomfortable from the wholesale retreat from nature that recent
> generations of kids have experienced. In the end, I do not believe that an
> ignorant, isolated, non-valuing population will advance the cause of nature.
>
>
> I think it has to be nuanced: in an urban environment, a couple of
> cockroaches, a bee, some moths and lawn beetles per kid will have no effect
> on populations. You obviously wouldn't loose them on Kings Park.
>
> A population of insects, bred as pets, is probably a good thing.
> Silkworms, anyone?
>
>
> We happily stand by while worlds are lost -urban sprawl (ie, some other
> humans "right" to have a house just like ours) that collapses insect,
> vertebrate and plant populations. I still remember a flock of a couple of
> hundred black cockies that used to fly over my childhood house. I remember
> catching (and letting go baardie grubs), bandicoots and honey possums where
> factories now stand, and every possible kind of lizard or snake imaginable.
> I still stop my car to shoo a Burtons legless lizard off the road (last
> time in November). Interacting with these things as a child makes me value
> them, although the caught-and-jar-ed ( and later released) critter probably
> didn't appreciate being valued at the time! All that is gone now.
>
> If anything, I think we need more interaction with nature, and some of it
> may be low -level destructive. Or perhaps, you can achieve much the same by
> getting the kid to make a collection by emptying the oyster lights around
> the porch. That leads to an interesting moral dilemma - which is worse, the
> kid who pins a few insects from a few families, or the households (most of
> us) that kill low kilogram quantities (wet weight) of insects per year due
> to their light usage patterns?
>
> In my opinion, we need to develop a system-level focus on nature, and move
> from the current maudlin sentimentality that latches onto poster animals -
> a koala, when an over-grazed eucalypt forest will destroy 4 species of
> possum; a family of penguins, when overfishing will locally make extinct
> 100 other species. I like the pre 1788 Aboriginal approach - if the numbers
> are getting out of hand, eat it ! Has anyone got a good recipe for feral
> camel?
>
>
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