[Catalist] Belief in Creationist Pseudoscience in Australia renaissance

Sat Mar 24 20:43:41 AEDT 2018

We, science teachers are letting the world down. We need to be more like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman, or Dawkins.
Passionate about Scientific Method. Don't let the takeaway be A theory is
just a  current explanation of nature.
Encourage scepticism, where is the data, evidence. If the data does to
support the theory the theory is wrong.
Global Warming renamed Climate Change is the Biggy. Science is never about
consensus. In fact history tells us the majority is usually wrong.
We need to be aware of the latest research on mindsets and incorporate that
in our teaching. Recommended on this is
https://lagunita.stanford.edu/courses/Education/EDUC115N/How_to_Learn_Math/about

Faith has nothing to do with science. Faith is a belief without evidence.
As soon as anyone tries to prove god they have missed the point.

We in the west and science have a lot to thank Christianity for the respect
for the individual core within enabled the  renaissance and the current
era. Lets not allow irrationality, superstition and emotion (eg Political
Correctness) to win.

I would highly recommend https://www.youtube.com/user/JordanPetersonVideos

A great series o lectures especially his explanation of the biblical
stories from a non religious view as to the underlying meaning.

Cheers Colin

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:16 PM, Gregory Munyard <gmunyard at iinet.net.au>
wrote:

> Dear All
>
>
>
> What a pity we can’t be a bit more broad minded and accept that evolution
> doesn’t actually provide ALL the answers to the orgins of life (e.g. the
> “evolution” of DNA/ RNA polymerase, helicase, the whole protein synthesis
> system – without protein synthesis there is no polymerase), that there are
> many erroneous and fraudulent discrepancies (Haeckel’s embryos, the Biston
> betularia scandal) and that the science behind evolution is sadly lacking
> (we weren’t actually there to see what happened, so it’s not observational
> science). From my limited perspective, this post could equally be entitled
> “Belief in Evolutionist Pseudoscience in Australia”.  Now, let’s see the
> feathers fly.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Greg Munyard
>
>
>
> *From: *Catalist <catalist-bounces at lists.stawa.net> on behalf of Igor
> Bray <igor.bray at curtin.edu.au>
> *Reply-To: *"catalist at lists.stawa.net" <catalist at lists.stawa.net>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 21 November 2017 at 10:41 am
> *To: *"catalist at lists.stawa.net" <catalist at lists.stawa.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Catalist] Belief in Creationist Pseudoscience in Australia
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
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>
> I’d like to thank Michael McGarry for raising the issues below, and in
> particular to those relating to the Australian Academy of Science. As a new
> Fellow of the Academy (FAA) I have asked that the page at the last link
> below be rewritten, and until this has been done, be removed from the site.
> It has now been removed, and I hope to see the new draft before it goes
> public.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Igor
>
>
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> *From: *Catalist <catalist-bounces at lists.stawa.net> on behalf of Michael
> McGarry <mmcgarry44 at gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *Catalist <catalist at lists.stawa.net>
> *Date: *Saturday, 26 August 2017 8:45 am
> *To: *Catalist <catalist at lists.stawa.net>
> *Subject: *[Catalist] Belief in Creationist Pseudoscience in Australia
>
>
>
> Greetings Science Colleagues,
>
> “It could therefore be considered surprising that *almost 60% of
> Australian adults believe that God or a supernatural being was behind the
> universe and all life,* and the majority of these people do not accept
> the well-established theory of evolution but believe that God brought about
> this universe and life, fully developed and similar to how we see it today,
> out of nothing.”
>
> Reference 1 URL: https://www.plainreason.org/articles/survey-creationism-
> australia/
>
> “Fundamentalist Christians believe their entire religious edifice will
> crumble if they accept the raw facts of evolution.  The vast majority of
> Christians fully embrace Darwin’s Theory, yet Creationists persist with
> teaching their children the alarming myths of Genesis and the “literal
> truths” of the Old Testament.”
>
> Reference 2 URL: https://www.plainreason.org/articles/intelligent-design-
> id-and-irreducible-complexity-ic/
>
> Why do 60% of Australian adults reject the Theory of Biological Evolution?
>
> *Hypothesis 1:* Do 60% of Australian adults *reject* the Theory of
> Biological Evolution because: “In Australia’s public schools, students are
> now routinely exposed to evangelism from very conservative Christian
> groups?”
>
> “Marion Maddox uncovers the surprising impact of these groups on once
> secular public schooling, and the ways in which governments have been
> persuaded to support their cause.”
>
> Reference 3: https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/books/general-books/
> current-affairs-politics/Taking-God-to-School-Marion-Maddox-9781743315712
>
> Marion Maddox URL: http://www.mq.edu.au/about_us/
> faculties_and_departments/faculty_of_arts/mhpir/staff/staff-politics_and_
> international_relations/professor_marion_maddox/
>
> *Hypothesis 2:* Do 60% of Australian adults *reject* the Theory of
> Biological Evolution because when students learn about biological evolution
> in their science classes, students with fixed religious-mindsets,
> ‘inherited’ from their parents and ‘churches’, reject the scientific
> evidence for biological evolution?
>
> Religions and Australian Constitution Law and Politics
>
> Colleagues may find these two papers on the interplay of religions,
> politics, and constitutional law in Australia most informative?
>
> ICLRS URL: https://www.iclrs.org/content/blurb/files/Australia.1.pdf
>
> CAROLYN EVANS URL: http://law.unimelb.edu.au/news/MLS/professor-carolyn-
> evans-appointed-deputy-vice-chancellor
>
> AUSTLII URL: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/ANZLawHisteJl/2007/3.
> pdf
>
> CHARLOTTE BAINES URL: http://adm.monash.edu/records-
> archives/archives/memo-archive/2004-2007/assets/includes/content/20100217/
> stories-around-monash3.html
>
> Religious Parents who refuse Medical Treatment for their sick Children
>
> AIFS URL: https://aifs.gov.au/publications/citizen-child-
> australian-law-and-childrens-rights/8-medical-procedures-children
>
> AVANT URL: http://www.avant.org.au/news/20151103-court-intervenes-in-
> non-urgent-situation-for-child-of-jehovahs-witness-parents/
>
> KEMH URL: http://www.kemh.health.wa.gov.au/development/manuals/O&G_
> guidelines/sectionb/2/b2.14.pdf
>
> ABC URL: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-15/christian-
> scientists-exempt-from-new-vaccination-laws/6395480
>
> *Question:* Given that 60% of Australian adults *reject* the Theory of
> Biological Evolution, should the Australian Academy of Science *delete*
> this sentence from their 2005 ‘position statement’ on the teaching of
> creationist pseudoscience in Australian schools?
>
> “The [Australian] Academy [of Science] sees no objection to the teaching
> of creationism in schools as part of a course in dogmatic or comparative
> religion, or in some other non-scientific context.”
>
> AAS Reference URL: https://www.science.org.au/supporting-science/science-
> policy/position-statements/creationism-and-intelligent-design
>
> Thanks and Best Wishes,
>
> Michael John McGarry
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kindest regards
Colin Dixon 0419 415000 :)
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